Letter From the Sobu Flats HOA Board
Please see the letter below from the Sobu Flats HOA Board.
Dear Fellow Sobu Homeowners,As your board we would like to share our thoughts regarding the potential sale of our building. We unanimously support the sale of the property, and we would like to explain how we came to that position.
- As discussed at the meeting, our reserves are currently very low. We anticipate several upcoming repair projects and expenditures that we have postponed for some time:
- The building’s plumbing system has been deteriorating for many years, to the point that water shutoffs for emergency repairs are a near weekly occurrence. If left unaddressed, a catastrophic failure is a question of when, not if.
- The roof has been in a state of disrepair for some time and has caused serious damage to multiple units on the 8th floor, with related costs borne by the Homeowners’ Association. Our property manager Maggie Jewell has worked very hard to perform triage and prioritize spot fixes, but the entire roof needs to be replaced soon.
- The security situation around the property has been an ongoing concern, demonstrated most dramatically by a recent incident in which a resident was shot in the head on the walkway between the front entrance and the side guest parking lot. Thankfully and very nearly miraculously, she made a full and swift recovery, but like the plumbing system and the roof, relying on our luck continuing courts tragedy. We have seen multiple incidents of trespassing, with at least one homeless person taking up residence in the basement for an indeterminate period of time – another was reported doing so last weekend. Packages at residents’ doors have been vandalized and stolen. Multiple cars in the parking lot have been broken into. Unfortunately, crime has increased around Buckhead in general, with multiple shooting incidents over the past few months. A Sobu homeowner was very nearly carjacked in broad daylight on East Paces Ferry Rd. just across Piedmont. The recent special assessment was devoted entirely to security measures – you may have noticed the new exterior lighting and the presence of security officers on the weekend. Unfortunately, we are going to have to suspend the weekend patrol very soon, as the funds from that assessment have been exhausted, and we haven’t been able to address serious gaps in our security cameras’ coverage due to cost.
- Our HV/AC units in the common areas are beginning to break down and will need repairs. We have substantial water leak issues in the basement which will need to be addressed. These are the most immediate needs, but other issues, like cosmetic deterioration in the common areas, contribute to a general decline in quality of life.
We are all Sobu homeowners, and we feel the sting of dues increases and special assessments as deeply as you do, but we have reached a point where putting off dues increases would be a dereliction of our duty. As such, we are proposing a 10% increase in dues this year and will be levying another special assessment at the maximum permissible amount mid-2018. We also anticipate a similar increase for 2019, as necessary repairs will be both expensive and continuing. It is important to remember that these increases are unavoidable if we wish to avoid catastrophic and costly problems on the property.
- As you are likely aware, property taxes almost rose drastically this year, and the last minute reprieve has created serious political headaches – Atlanta Public Schools recently announced that they may have furlough staff due to delays in receiving revenue. It is highly likely increases will happen next year. This means an increase that could be around 20 times more than this past year.
- Per our Declaration of Condominium, no unit may be leased without a permit issued by the board, and only 25% of all units may hold leasing permits at a time. The board has not prioritized enforcement of this rule in the past, but recent changes create significant liabilities if we do not exercise due diligence in keeping the leased percentage of the property below 25%. Beginning in February we will start levying fines against every owner known to be renting units without the permission of the board. The fine is $25/day or roughly $750/month. If we are assembled prior to that time, the fines will not be required and will not be assessed.
- We have concerns regarding the ability to remain solvent as an HOA. We are in a “catch 22,” as we need more money to perform necessary repairs and general upkeep, but in pursuing it we may cause more dues delinquency and potentially foreclosures, thereby decreasing cash flow and causing the HOA to go bankrupt. This is a real possibility that has happened to condo associations across the country. This sale is our best chance to avoid this possibility.
- The real estate agents handling the sale have stated several times that the buyer is interested in closing the sale as quickly as possible and has already begun their due diligence work in hopes of closing quickly. The agents have said that we may be able to close as soon as January or February.
- An important part of the purchase offer is a one year leaseback, which we find very exciting. At closing, each owner will sign a one year lease with the purchaser, and the cost of the lease ($2/sq. ft./mo.) will immediately be deducted from proceeds of the sale. For one year after closing, owners will be able to stay in their units without paying monthly rent, association fees, or electric/gas/water/waste disposal bills. During the leaseback, all maintenance of the property (including fixtures and appliances in each unit) will be the responsibility of the new owners, not the lessees, and the new owners may even provide new amenities like security personnel and concierge service (these aren’t guaranteed, but have been mentioned several times in discussions with the real estate agents and buyers). Sub-leasing will also be allowed, which means that you can even recoup some or all of the initial cost of the leaseback – or potentially even turn a profit.
- We have also been informed that Paces Green and the property next to it (on the west side of our property) have been sold or are in the process of being sold to a construction project that will reach a height well above our own. This means that upon completion of this project we will have lost our views to the west and the south. Direct sunlight on the pool may be reduced to an hour or two each day. Our property is zoned with a height limit of 150 feet, while many around us allow significantly higher elevations. This will decrease our property value for potential sales in the future as well since we cannot build higher than the properties around us. There is currently a construction project on the east side of our building on the other side of Shadowlawn that may also impact our views to the east.
- This offer is well above any potential price you could ever hope to get individually. The sale committee worked with another real estate agent for a full year without receiving any concrete offers, and similar nearby properties have struggled to get even as much as this offer. While Buckhead and Atlanta as a whole have been in a building boom lately, there’s no guarantee that it will continue, and conditions are already emerging that may significantly slow development in our area specifically. Just last month, the mayor enacted a moratorium on new developments that require additional parking density in Buckhead. Our potential buyer’s plans are not affected by the moratorium, but it will almost certainly be an obstacle to other buyers should this deal fall through.
Most of us on the board have lived at Sobu for more than a decade. It has been a wonderful home, made all the better by you, our friends and neighbors. We’ve laughed together around the pool, met each other (and each other’s dogs) in the back yard, chatted in the elevators and halls, and shared so many little bits of our lives, and it is not without some sadness that we recommend this sale to you. Regardless of that sadness, though, we have to face the reality that the building has serious and costly problems that can no longer be ignored or pushed aside. We’re very lucky to have an offer on the table that will allow us all to move forward, and we strongly recommend that you accept it.Thank you for taking the time to read our thoughts and feelings on the subject. Please contact CMA or the real estate team with any questions.Warmest regards,Your Sobu Flats HOA Board
Great letter. Thank you for sharing! Is there any possibility of one-on-one meetings or group sessions with the realtor team for those on the fence? You may be already be doing this. Possibly showing them similar options in the area to ease their stress of moving? Even a conference call for people out of town? My husband and I have moved out of state and like many, we are eager for this sale to go through! Thank you all you are doing to make it happen!
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone know what the max permissible special assessment amount is?
ReplyDeleteThat information should be contained in the condo document, which can be found on the Sobu website.
DeleteThe truth is that this HOA has had assessments almost every year since I have been in residence (since 2001) at this
property. I have belong to another condo assoc. in the O4W since 1999 and we have yet to have a special assessment for anything. A special assessment every 5 years is one thing, but a special assessment every year is not the norm.
Further, with the major repairs that are necessary, we face an increase assessment frequency and increase in assessment amounts over a extended period of time going forward. Therefore, the financially prudent thing to do is to sell this building.
I agree with you and have already signed my contract.
DeleteI was curious about the cost these assessments may be because I think the people who haven't signed should know not only the profit they won't be making from their unit selling, but also the additional costs it will be to remain here.
Additionally, if we are talking about in the thousands year after year, this will for sure make it so we end up in the "catch 22" where we start losing money due to delinquencies in paying.
I just think adding some of the numbers will help people realize the true state of the building and that it can not just be fixed in a year for a long term housing option.
Anon, yes, I realize why you asked the very pertinent question. Thought I would boaster your concern. Thanks for the follow up .
DeleteAbsolutely. The more numbers that are provided the better. The bigger picture, as you state, is the diminishing returns we will all have moving forward with the added costs of the repair and upkeep of this property if it doesn't sell. The writing is on the wall. We are looking at increased HOA dues and special assessments that will more than likely trigger a financial hardship on some that may cause delinquency in payments. Let's be real, the $500+ HOA fees are not cheap, it is more than my mortgage payment as it is. Also taking into account that if the board really starts enforcing the leasing rules (which would seem to accelerate the dismal financial prospects of the property) the future is not a financial bright one for us. Lastly, and not wanting to sound negative, the 98 signed is a great accomplishment but at the end of the day until all 132 are signed it won't happen. I'll celebrate when we get there, even one single holdout and the deal doesn't happen.
DeletePreaching to the choir - What is it going to take to get everyone on board ?!?
ReplyDeleteAny chance we can get a numbers focused, condensed version of this to really make an impact?
ReplyDeleteHere is a real number. The board said at the meeting that new plumbing will cost about 1 million dollars. My % of owenweshop is 0.84% so that means my cost will be $8,400 just for the plumbing.
DeleteI, for one, will not pay this kind of repair cost going forward. This is not financially sound in anyone's ledger. This property, at the moment, is simply NOT worth. If there is anyone on the fence, they really don't know the gravity of the situation and require an in person discussion.
DeleteIn reference to the absurdly expensive plumbing, recently, a friend, who owns at another Atlanta property in the Castleberry District, had to take a personal loan to pay an assessment of $5,000 to repair/replace the building's roof. This was his only options since he can't sell his unit at a break even price at the moment. To me, this is the situation we will be in if this building does not sell. And many will not pay, which will delay repair and cause further costly damage to building.
Deleteatta way to put it perspective although it downer certainly true. 99% not a win in this case.
ReplyDeleteWhat are the thoughts on calling another meeting before the deadline? Does anyone feel it might be beneficial?
ReplyDeleteI'm thinking about sending a personal letter to each person who hasn't signed, yet. Our personal story. We can't move back. My husband has allergies and asthma and needed to move where the air quality was better. Sadly, Atlanta has an F in air quality. We have legal renters, but lose money every month. Rising Association costs will only make it worse. I've hoped and prayed for a solution. We need this deal to happen. We are not independently wealthy, we are not able to live there, we are not willing to let this ruin our excellent credit. We are stuck and need everyone to understand this affects so many people. We loved living there. Things change. It's time to seize the day and move forward. Please think beyond your four walls to the entire building. Let Sobu transition to its next iteration. If you're older, find out if you can get a deal with the next owners, if you really want to stay. If you're younger, or have money, have some kindness for your neighbors and fellow owners. Let's pull together with positivity and close this deal!
ReplyDeleteCan we please have a printed copy of the letter from the board placed under the door of every unit that hasn't already signed? And/or emailed/mailed to the owners of those units, as some are legally renting.
ReplyDeleteAn additional breakdown, as in a budget/estimated increase in fees and amount of a special assessment could also be useful. I couldn't find a max special assessment fee in any of the condo docs.
Can we ask that the board personally contacts owners to follow up after the letters, to help understand any remaining concerns. We do not want to have holdouts because they don't understand or are afraid of something that isn't real.
Last time, we had three holdouts. Three. Let's do everything we can to calmly, kindly, and quickly convince every owner to sign this deal.
That was already done, I had one on my door yesterday evening.
DeleteTo be confirmed by Josh since he was involved with the first assemblage, but I'm pretty sure that we eventually got to the 100%
DeleteIIRC, We did but the last few holdouts cost us the original buyer and by then the economy and development market were headed into the toilet.
DeleteWe have a unicorn buyer here. Fair/full market value for the property. No land disturbance permit or zoning hearing ls required. I have a ton of experience in that realm and those are lengthy processes with no defined end. Especially for anyone trying to re-zone or obtain a variance. We have a fast track to the buyout money.
I cannot think of a good reason to not sign. If anyone thinks they are going to hold out for some mega deal, that's not how the contract is written and it's not how developers work. They may stand to make a lot of money in the long run but they also have limited resources and capital.
Mr Stachler,
DeleteWell put, sir! Yes, time is of the essence in more ways than one. And I echo your comment: For what reason would you not sell and for what reason would you delay signing your contract expeditiously?
I will also say that if you think you should or ought to share in someone else's success, you are woefully disconnected. Please take your profit from this sale and invest in other opportunities that will yield a higher return than this property will ever yield going forward.
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DeleteTo add on to the idea of sending a printed copy (or placing it under the door) - Can we do that for the offer spreadsheet? It's pretty obvious how many of us are in the red (and have been for over 15 years). The newer buyers may not realize just how bad it is for the rest of us, and they may not realize that now they are in Sobu, there's not much chance of ever getting out, unless we all agree to sell. (Nobody wants to feel like they are trapped and don't control their own living arrangements, do they?)
ReplyDeleteAnother “status” meeting could be good. That way we can address whatever the issues are if there are any.
ReplyDeleteGiven all the valid reasons TO sign, I am really interested in understanding the reason why an owner would not do so. We haven't heard that side on here. What, if anything, are people hearing from those that are not signing or that have not done so yet? We need to know those concerns so we can address them, one on one or in small meetings if necessary. The fact that not everyone is on board means we need to address the reasons why that is so. I fear that those opinions will not be addressed and consequently those concerned will not fully understand how signing is the best option we all collectively have.
ReplyDeleteAgreed!
DeleteRecently, the Sales Team related that no owner has indicated any reason for not signing. Does anyone know for sure of an owner/s not wanting to sign?
DeleteI realize most readers and posters here are already signed, but consider this additional discussion points for and talks you have with people considering not signing. A bid issue is that the new construction in the area is painting us into a corner regarding resale value of our units. With so many new rental and purchase options on the market and in the queue to hit the market soon, we are being and will be continue to be pushed to the bottom of the condo/rental market. Here's some values for other 1 and 2 BR condos within a couple of miles based on their current asking prices converted to price per foot.
ReplyDelete2855 Peachtree Rd (the Alhambra) - approx. 161/sq.ft
2870 Pharr Ct. (the Concorde) - approx. 192-265/sq.ft.
2965 Pharr Ct. (Slaton Manor) - 127-130/sq.ft. (the most comparable to our property, IMO)
2840 Peachtree Rd (the Crestwood) - 227/sq.ft.
325 East Paces Ferry (325 Paces) - 245/sq.ft.
Recent sales in our building over the last couple years are 97-207/sq.ft. with most coming in at about 145-150/sq.ft. The properties listed above fetching higher per square prices offer nicer/better amenities, better locations, porches or just buildings in better conditions (or some or all of these factors). Meanwhile, we are struggling to keep the roof on and the water running, literally.
I've been following the commercial property value of the land in the area for some time. The offer on this building is very fair based on the land value. The only way that value is realized is if everyone signs. Anyone thinking we can get more is fooling themselves. I spent about 15 years of my career working in land development in the Atlanta area as a civil engineer. I have permitted and rezoned projects all over the metro area including Atlanta and NPU-B. The only way this property could realize a higher value is through rezoning. Under the SPI-9 document, that is not likely. Anyone with knowledge of master planning understands transitional zones. That is what our property is. We are on the edge of the high density and taller buildings, to transition to the medium density to the east and the low density across Piedmont. Variances are given for hardships. There is no hardship. Additionally, any buyer wishing to go through that process is going to make their closing contingent upon the results of that process. It's a fickle process. The hearing can be deferred over and over by both the NPU and again by City Council, and the demands made by the NPU could kill the project before it gets to the next step. I've seen it happen first hand.
Whether anyone thinks the offer for their unit under this deal is personally fair or not, the fact is that is is higher than much nicer units in other buildings are selling for on the open market. It's between 50% and 100% more than some of our former neighbors have pulled for their units. As more new development comes it will hold down our selling value as our building deteriorates and falls behind the times, while pushing up our taxable value. This offer is as good as it is going to get for the foreseeable future. And based on the increasing amount of information coming out about needed repairs, it does not sound like the building has much future to offer.
More good points - appreciate the research to add to to overwhelming arguments to sell. But the people reading this have already signed. Do we need to print all these arguments and sent out via email to everyone? I signed early on before all this information was out and it just confirms it was the right thing to do. I hate feeling like the message is going unheeded by 30 owners in this building!! What is going on?
Deletelet's focus on the 32 instead of the 98
DeleteI noticed the a block owners who haven't signed yet fall into the category of newer owners. If they're renting, they're doing it without a permit, unless the board has given them a waiver. If you live in the building, and you know any of these illegal renters, you could encourage them to either follow up with their owners, or look for a legal unit to rent. I'd hate to be a renter in that position. It's really unfair to them. I'd love for them to encourage the owners to sign, so they don't have to move for at least a year.
ReplyDeleteI am reaching out to a person I know in that position today - I am sure they don't know that the unit they are renting is being done so illegally and that they are running the risk of being put out of their apartment next year.
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